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Post by Jonathan on Jan 20, 2004 3:11:43 GMT -5
Tactitcal Glock... Package Contains: Ghost Ring Rear Sight Red or Green Aro-Glow Front Sight Extended Slide Release Sure Touch Magazine Release Stainless Steel Guide Rod Satin Hard Chrome Slide finish Black Titanium Nitride Barrel finish "Aro-Tek Tactical" laser engraved logo Upgrade Options: Ghost Ring Rear/Night Front Sights - (upgrade $7) Ghost Ring Night Rear/Night Front Sights - (Upgrade $35) Low Profile Night Sight Set - (Upgrade $17) Black Titanium Nitride Slide finish - optional 3 1/2 lb. connector, DSS.02- Black Diamond coated (upgrade $134) Chrome Dress-up Kit - (upgrade $34) =============================== Aro-Tek Glock Ultimate Competition Package Available for Glock models 17, 19, 20, 21, 22 and 23 $1,270.16 - 9 mm & .40 cal $1,364.58 - 10 mm & .45 cal (your gun converted $630.10) Package Contains: Aro-Port Hybrid Compensator Target Sight Set Extended Slide Release Sure Touch Magazine Release Titanium Guide Tube Upgrade Options: Slide Refinishing (Black or Satin Chrome) - $89 Barrel Refinishing (Black or Satin Chrome) - $39 Laser Engraving (Aro-Tek Logo) - $25 Tactical Trigger Kit - (9 mm & .40 cal )- 5 lb. $78, 3.5 lb $114, exchange Tactical Trigger Kit - (10 mm & .45 cal )- 5 lb. $83, 3.5 lb $119, exchange Titanium Firing Pin -$59.50 Ghost Ring Night Sights - (upgrade $72) Three Dot Sight Set - (upgrade $6) Low Profile Night Sight Set- (upgrade $54) Chrome Dress Up Kit - $34 Gun Shown Features: (Price as shown, without laser, $1561.58) Glock Model G-21 Ultimate Competition Package Satin Chrome Barrel, Slide, and Accessories Laser Engraving (Aro-Tek Logo) Tactical Trigger Kit So what do you guys think? $1,561.58 worth it?? Has anyone had the pleasure in firing one of these bad boys? I want this gun bad but I just wantt o know how superior this gun is over the stock Glock? Glocks are among my favorite pistols. I'm buying my next gun this week most likely. I'm deciding between a Aro-Tek Glock 17, a stock Glock 17, a Sig P229, and a Sig P226 ST. This is a harder choice than the first (P99). I want to get an expensive gun out of the way which is why I may be willing to spend $1,000. Of the those options which actually better helps the quality and performance of the Glock? Thank you.
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Post by Callahan on Jan 20, 2004 3:33:05 GMT -5
Gawd!
Doesn't that seem to go against the grain of the whole Glock concept of producing a no-frills utilitarian pistol?
Kinda like putting white walls on a Jeep Wrangler... ;D
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Post by Jonathan on Jan 20, 2004 3:37:55 GMT -5
I built my Aro-Tek Ulitmate Competition Glock 17 online and it totated up to $1,560.66. I can't imagine how sweet of a gun this would be to own. I'm really starting to consider it...I'd just have to come up with a little more money than I planned to spend. I'm going to call Aro-Tek tomorrow for further information regarding this gun.
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Post by Jonathan on Jan 20, 2004 3:40:35 GMT -5
Gawd! Doesn't that seem to go against the grain of the whole Glock concept of producing a no-frills utilitarian pistol? Kinda like putting white walls on a Jeep Wrangler... ;D I think this Glock would be more along the lines of a modified Turbo Hummer.
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Post by The Paul on Jan 20, 2004 3:40:53 GMT -5
Thats an Uber Glock!....
Way to much for one in my humble opinion. But definately cool.....I swear this board tempts me so.
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Post by Jonathan on Jan 20, 2004 4:49:02 GMT -5
Thats an Uber Glock!.... Way to much for one in my humble opinion. But definately cool.....I swear this board tempts me so. I just have to have that gun. I think I'm just going to buy the regular Glock 17 this week, save money and send it in to be done up when I have all the cash. That way I'll really be able to tell the difference. Too sweet... I believe in this case you're actually getting what you pay for.
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Post by Seraph on Jan 20, 2004 5:57:13 GMT -5
I think this Glock would be more along the lines of a modified Turbo Hummer. No offense, but with all of these expensive cosmetic "upgrades" and plastic parts, I think this is possibly more like the Michael Jackson of handguns. Between the Sig and the Glock, I'd have to go Sig, for its build and its traditional layout. If you really love the Glock, then I recommend adding the above-listed stainless guide rod, trigger job and, possibly, a set of sights, to a box-stock glock. I don't see anything else on the list that seems ultra-functional. I don't like the Glock, but I have shot them, and they shoot well, in spite of a creepy-feeling trigger, which may possibly be fixed by the trigger job. They're a decent choice for pure function, but they really are kind of ugly. If you want a dressed-up gun that will impress with its beauty, I don't think a Glock is a good choice at all. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder, eh? Being a rifleman, I would be interested in trying out that aperture sight, though.
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Post by XavierBreath on Jan 20, 2004 8:34:38 GMT -5
$1500? For a bunch of cosmetic upgrades on a Glock? $1500 is a lot of money that you would never see again if you tried to resell this pistol. None of the "improvements" improve performance. You could argue that they enhance reliability, but this pistol is reknown for reliability out of the box. I'd spend that kind of money on a Wilson or a Les Baer, or better yet, two Colts. Or if you wanted a Glock, then get one and use the extra cash to accurize the pistol and customize it to YOUR personal use, not an anonymous seller of an upgrade package.
Is this what Glocksters get when they realize that thier pistol has no soul?
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Post by Jonathan on Jan 20, 2004 11:39:47 GMT -5
No offense, but with all of these expensive cosmetic "upgrades" and plastic parts, I think this is possibly more like the Michael Jackson of handguns. Between the Sig and the Glock, I'd have to go Sig, for its build and its traditional layout. If you really love the Glock, then I recommend adding the above-listed stainless guide rod, trigger job and, possibly, a set of sights, to a box-stock glock. I don't see anything else on the list that seems ultra-functional. I don't like the Glock, but I have shot them, and they shoot well, in spite of a creepy-feeling trigger, which may possibly be fixed by the trigger job. They're a decent choice for pure function, but they really are kind of ugly. If you want a dressed-up gun that will impress with its beauty, I don't think a Glock is a good choice at all. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder, eh? Being a rifleman, I would be interested in trying out that aperture sight, though. First of all when I think of build quality, I think of durability/reliability and the Glock is arguably the most durable handgun on this planet. As far as aesthetics go I like the look of the Glock better than the Sig. Thats my opinion. I see the Glock as the look of the future while the Sigs are the look of the past. I love Sigs too obviously and I'm going buy a couple of them this year god permitting. Personally I shoot significantly better with the Glocks in comparison. I also enjoy shooting the Glocks over the Sigs. I like the feel of the Sigs in my hand, especially the P229 but then again I like the feel of the Glocks as well. I don't know why anyone would say that $1,561 is too much for this gun. Some of you have spent more than that on replica 1911s that I'm sure would be out-performed and out-lasted by this Super-Glock. I'd much rather spend this much on this gun than on a 1911 at this point and time. I don't see why some of guys refer to polymer pistols as cheap plastic guns. Polymer is the thing of the future and its superior to your metal/alloy guns. Metal guns are a thing of the past. I understand a lot of you guys are older but I believe that they'll be a time when even your collections are flushed with polymer pistols.
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Post by Jonathan on Jan 20, 2004 11:52:40 GMT -5
$1500? For a bunch of cosmetic upgrades on a Glock? $1500 is a lot of money that you would never see again if you tried to resell this pistol. None of the "improvements" improve performance. You could argue that they enhance reliability, but this pistol is reknown for reliability out of the box. I'd spend that kind of money on a Wilson or a Les Baer, or better yet, two Colts. Or if you wanted a Glock, then get one and use the extra cash to accurize the pistol and customize it to YOUR personal use, not an anonymous seller of an upgrade package. Is this what Glocksters get when they realize that thier pistol has no soul? Well actually only about $175 of the $1,561 Glock I built was spent on cosmetics. This is more of a collector piece and super range gun for me. Xavier, I don't know what to tell you. I understand you hate the Glocks in all but I happen to enjoy shooting these things and l'm greatly fond of them. To each his own I say. I know you love the 1911s but they're just not my thing right now. I can appreciate them probably a lot more than you can appreciate a Glock. The 1911s are sweet but there are a lot of guns higher on my priority list at the moment. I'd much rather have this Glock than a Wilson or something of that nature. Nothing personal and I appreciate your opinion but I feel differently about the Glock than you do.
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Post by Slavik on Jan 20, 2004 12:00:15 GMT -5
to answer the original question:
IMHO, NO it's not worth it. I would rather invest in a decent 1911 or Browning HP if you want to stay with 9mm. Both of these guns will have all these cool toys (night sights, premium grips, premium finish, matched trigger, reliability package, and a great trigger) I just like the great proven classic designs rather than marketing hype.
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PS ...and I seriously doubt the Glock outperforming too many premium 1911’s (thats why people who are willing to spend serious money on the pistol usualy go with 1911 design), although I’ll probably be able to throw Glock further, so I guess that would be an advantage (j/k) ;D
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Post by Jonathan on Jan 20, 2004 12:07:58 GMT -5
to answer the original question: Slavik PS ...and I seriously doubt the Glock outperforming too many premium 1911’s (thats why people who are willing to spend serious money on the pistol usualy go with 1911 design), although I’ll probably be able to throw Glock further, so I guess that would be an advantage (j/k) ;D That would have to be some premium 1911 to out-perform this or even a stock Glock. As for relibility I was once told by a Vietnam veteran that the Colt 1911 was considerably unreliable and inaccurate in comparison to many German engineered handguns. I was always under the impression that German handguns were superior to that off American handguns. I could be wrong...
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Post by Slavik on Jan 20, 2004 12:31:49 GMT -5
well, are u calling old mil-spec 1911 a premium 1911 model? If we are talking about spending $400 on a gun, I am sure Glocks shall be rated up there on the list.......but when you talk about $1500 I definately think you would ba able to purchase 1911 that is superior to Glock in most categories.
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Post by cnemikeman on Jan 20, 2004 12:34:26 GMT -5
Well, I don't want this thread to wonder into "flamedom"...< because we are all on the same side, gun enthusiasts, and it wouldn't do for us all to like the same things......> but I will have to add my opinion, and it's only that... MY opinion. Thats a cool looking, tricked out Glock. Probably would be fun to shoot, and if, and ONLY if I had every other gun I've always wanted, I'd consider adding one for the novelty. The SIG vs. Glock thing is ageless, and always will be. Personal preference and brand allegience. I like both, both have benefits and strengths/weaknesses...... but I guess I'm more of a SIG guy. ( Only if forced to choose! ) I will have to respectfully disagree on one thing: That Glock is NEVER going to be in the same class at that price with a 1911. Trust me. I'm from the govt. and I'm here to help you. Seriously, a top level 1911 in that price range ( Baer, Wilson, even high end Kimber and Colt) will have the "shooters edge". The 1911 guns of today are MUCH different than the ones from the war era... reliability is hugely improved. I shoot all the models of guns, religiously, and am giving serious thought to offloading some of my guns, and narrowing down to a couple of quality guns. I'm thinking of P228, G19, and a couple of solid 1911s..... and throw in a good snubby wheelgun for CCW. I'm thinking I need to focus on being proficient with the guns, and the too many models makes it tough to have muscle memory when shooting. I guess all my thinking about tactical shooting lately has me thinking this way.... but I don't want to take that extra second to think ( which gun is this and how does it function) when a bad guy is threatening my life. Ok.... guess I kinda wondered off the topic a bit, but you get the idea....... Depending on how the replies go, I may start a new topic on the tactical thing, anyway. Good luck, and do what feels BEST for you. No one but you has to be happy. Remember that. MiKeMan
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Post by mikolev on Jan 20, 2004 12:47:39 GMT -5
I've been primarily a Glock and S&W man for a long time. I would consider most of these "upgrades" to be more like "lateral grades" with the exception of the trigger kits. I guess I still consider Glocks one of the best and most durable "practical guns", and when you do all this to it, it's no longer the practical gun I've come to love. I can't imagine paying that much for any gun other than a few custom 1911s, but I hope who ever buys one of these enjoys it to no end.
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