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Post by dubbleakshun on Dec 18, 2003 20:23:57 GMT -5
If it wasn't for these people,I would have went for broke in ammo expenses. www.georgia-arms.com Check out the Canned Heat and Shear Power Plus. |
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Post by BSMINBG on Dec 19, 2003 11:32:40 GMT -5
I saw where a couple of people said that they wouldn't shoot Cor-Bons in a Glock. I was just curious why. I have a Glock 26 9mm and I use Cor-Bons with no problems. Just wondering what the reasoning is...
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Post by Callahan on Dec 19, 2003 11:44:47 GMT -5
I seem to recall somewhere that the Glock owner's manual advises not using +P loads, but I'm sure one of the resident Glockmeisters can tell ya fer sure... ;D
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Post by tptplayer on Dec 19, 2003 13:42:50 GMT -5
I don't spend much time on the Glock forums but general consensus is that the Georgia Arms ammo is fine for any Glock. The Glock specs should be able to handle +P or +P+ ammo (though tecnically there is no such thing in .40) with plenty of safety margin.
What I said is that I would not shoot CorBon .40 in a Glock because it costs over 2 1/2 times what the Georgia Arms ammo costs for virtually the same fps (some a little better, some a little slower).
I would also not classify myself as a Glockmeister, etc. I have a one Glock along with several other handguns. The Glock is not even my favorite. I just feel that a few people on the forum who don't have Glocks say unduly negative things about them.
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Post by dubbleakshun on Dec 19, 2003 16:26:47 GMT -5
One can shoot the georgia arms .40 S&W defensive ammunition for an average cost of $27.50 per 100 rds,the Corbon and others will average between $120. to $150 per 100 rds.
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Post by The Jeffly Has Spoken on Dec 19, 2003 18:00:56 GMT -5
While we're on the topic of ammo velocities and what-not, don't you think the .357 Sig would have even more problem with overpenetration than a 9mm? After all, it is the same sized bullet going quite a bit faster
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Post by dubbleakshun on Dec 19, 2003 19:37:06 GMT -5
Jeffly;Depends on the bullet,it's shape,and composition,but mostly of what the target is made from that your trying to destroy.If the 125 gr. .357 sig can be described as overpenetrating,what would be said of the .357 magnum in the 125 gr. hollow point?
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Post by The Jeffly Has Spoken on Dec 19, 2003 19:42:15 GMT -5
Ah, good point
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Post by Jeffress77 on Dec 20, 2003 2:50:16 GMT -5
Nobody has mentioned Taurus' All Copper Hex round. I think this is the best defense round and tests proved it was good in American Hadgunner. I think this is what magazine it was in. I use either the Taurus Copper Hex or Cor-Bon +P
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Post by nastybutler on Dec 20, 2003 16:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by dubbleakshun on Dec 20, 2003 16:22:01 GMT -5
Nastybutler;I assume that a box contains 20 rounds ?
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Post by tptplayer on Dec 22, 2003 8:27:07 GMT -5
Callahan- I don't claim to be or want to be a resident
Glockmeister but I did reread the manual. It states "No liability whatever can be accepted if inexpertly filled ammunition is used. All liability whatever is excluded in the event of these instructions not being observed."
That sounds deliberately vague doesn't it.
Another place it says, "GLOCK will not honor claims involving this firearm which result from... the use of ammunition other than original high quality commercially manufactured ammunition in good condition...."
There are no warnings against +P ammo that I could see.
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Post by SectionTRT on Jan 2, 2004 1:55:53 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm new to this web site, but I'd love to help anyone in anyway. Also, I didn’t read all the replies so I may be repeating someone but oh well. About you're post regarding .40 defensive ammo: 155grain Federal Hydra-Shock. To anyone that says the heaviest grain is the best way to go I say look at the ballistics. 155grain is the fastest and delivers the most energy at the feasible ranges (i.e. the distances you're actually going to be shooting at someone from). The law of diminishing returns, a term familiar to anyone that has taken Econ 101, states that there comes a point where adding one more grain no longer positively affects the velocity & energy. Furthermore, a lighter bullet traveling faster will do as much, if not more, damage than a heavier bullet moving slower. Additionally, if you are worried about penetration with a JHP you can always use the alternating method of loading. That is, you alternate between a JHP and a FMJ throughout your magazine. Most people have their own way of doing this (5JHP's then 6FMJ's and so-on) but the theory is the same. I hope this helps.
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Post by dubbleakshun on Jan 2, 2004 12:03:59 GMT -5
TRT; Thanks for you insight,and Welcome to the forum;We are well versee in the advantages of velosity and impact energy resulting from the use of lighter hollow point bullets verses heavier Full Metal Jackets.THe 135 gr. Corbon in the .40 S&W will get 1300 fps, or more,the lighter fragible bullets from a 37 gr. Expanding Hollow Point will get you 2,550 fps in the .40 S&W. The bottle necked cartridge designs not only reduce bullet weight, but bullet diameter as well, resulting in phenominal velosities and impact energy, as we have seen with the .357sig, .400 Corbon,and .38 Casull pistol cartridges.I have indorsed the georgia arms Gold Dot + P 185 gr.,.45acp not only because of it's price of $13.75 for 50 rds.,but it's incredible velosity of 1100 fps for a bullet of that diameter and weight in the standard .45 acp cartridge case.The .460 Rowland Cartridge, in the .45 acp conversion barrel, will get 1350 fps,with 931 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy, using a 230 gr.Gold Dot Hollow Point from a standard size 1911 pistol.
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