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Post by Digital Liquid Audio on Mar 20, 2003 11:34:19 GMT -5
I wanted to see if anyone has used any of the following ammo and what their experience is with it:
Federal Hyda-Shock
Glaser Silver or Blue
MagSafe Personal Defense
Triton Quick-Shok
Strike Three
Or if you have other ammo which you have used and like that would be good too. Thanks.
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Post by trapper on Mar 20, 2003 11:45:11 GMT -5
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Post by Mike on Mar 20, 2003 12:57:41 GMT -5
I'm very fond of Speer Gold Dot ammo in .32, .380 and 9mm (124 grain). I like Remington Golden Saber in .380 and 40S&W (165 grain). In the past I exclusively used Federal Hydra-Shoks in .32, .380 and 9mm but I found that they didn't feed as well as the Gold Dots in my .32 NAA Guardian and the .380 didn't feed as well as either the Gold Dots or Golden Saber in my Sig 230.
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Post by Jeffress77 on Mar 31, 2003 14:13:12 GMT -5
I believe that the best self defense round available today is Taurus' All Copper Hex round. The expansion is almost perfect in any material, with full expansion early. You should go to their website and check it out. It is priced in there with the Cor-Bon Pow'rball round which is excellent too.
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Post by DocGlock on Mar 31, 2003 18:41:15 GMT -5
Hydra-Shoks are great loads. many of Police Depts. issue these loads including Federal agency's. The speers are just as good in testing. When hunting with these rounds you gotta make sure not to hit the good meat because it makes one hell of a mess. Nothing like destroying your prime cuts with a hydra-shok. Alot of guys I know don't hunt with em. Could be liability issues if used in a shoot if your not PD.
DocGlock
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Post by Callahan on Apr 16, 2003 20:48:31 GMT -5
The deer that runs for 5 seconds? He's dead; he just doesn't realize it yet. The pit bull? He quickly realizes I'm the least of his problems. Ultimate distraction, eh?
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Post by GreyWolfe11 on Apr 26, 2003 6:42:43 GMT -5
I've used the Federal Hydra-Shok's in caliber 9mm, .357mag., .40S&W, .45acp, and .44mag. and have been extremely happy with all of the results.
The Triton Quik-Shok 's are relatively new, having been designed by the same fellow responsible for the Hydra-Shok. I've been buying them in .357sig (115 gr. QSHP - 1450 fps/537 ft.lbs) and they've been performing well from my Glock 31. I can't vouche personally for any gelatin tests, but I know they'll blow the hell out of a coconut at 20 feet! (a very cool target set up if you local produce dept. has access to them. - slap on a turbin and beard and your ready for a day of Osama head-shots....)
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Post by 12ptADKBuck on Apr 26, 2003 19:35:31 GMT -5
Hydra-shocks are very good so are tritons
I also realy lioke Corbon's they make killer ammo
(no pun)
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Post by Jeffress77 on May 11, 2003 23:45:06 GMT -5
Now, I am speaking from what I have heard, but my neighbor, Bill, is a homicide officer in Gary, IN. We live about 30 mins east of Gary, and he is a reliable source as far as handguns are concerned. As we were lifting weights in his basement, his son brought out a buch of boxes of Hydra-Shok and CorBon .40S&W He says, "Justin, (ME) you can have all of those if you want they arent worth S**T and I don't want them". I asked him why and he said that the Gary police department tests all of their defense rounds in different mediums and they tested the worse out of any round. He then continued by saying that he was on a drug bust a few years ago, when a perp drew a gun, so Bill shot one round center mass, and then followed with another round to the cranium. Bill says that the man actually got up after he fell down, and ran quite a ways. He died later on, but closer examination showed that the round that was shot to the cranium busted the orbital around the eye, and actually bounced off in another direction. He didn't express on the center mass shot, but from the way he explained the story, the damage was minimal. Another incident with federal hydra-shoks happened, actually, in my family. A member of my family negligently fired a round inside his house which struck his wife in the ankle. This happened on Thanksgiving evening when he was unloading his 1911 for the night. He dropped the hammer to relieve stress on the trigger and he had a round in the chamber, much to everyone's surprise. After all the commotion and agony, the doctor's results were even more surprising. The Hydra-Shok had entered on the outside of the left ankle and exited on the inside, but the X-Rays showed that not one single chip was taken from any of her bones in the foot. The round simply penetrated the skin and tore through thin tissue as it actually crossed through her foot. God was with us on that day, but had it been an murderer that broke into the house, who knows what could have happened with those rounds. So there is my testimony, and I hope everyone reads it, because it is enough to keep me away from those Federal Hydra-Shoks!
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Post by Jeffress77 on May 11, 2003 23:47:16 GMT -5
I guess I noticed I was confusing, but We both USE the CorBons I made it seem like he didn't like the CorBons, but we do
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Post by DoubleAction on May 12, 2003 18:09:41 GMT -5
I have alot of the Hydra Shok and Golden Saber in various calibers,but the Corbon 135 gr. JHP,.40 S&W,with 1300 fps., brings out the best in my Sig 239 and 229.They also take a fondness to the Triton 125 gr.BHP in .357 sig with a velosity of 1350 fps and 506 ft. lbs. of energy.These pistols also like the 135 gr. Hydra Shok in .40 S&W,the Winchester SXT 180 gr. .40 S&W,the 125 gr. Speer Gold Dot in .357 sig,and a few others.Mostly I carry the Corbon 135 gr. in .40 S&W with the 239 ,it seems to favor the higher velosity cartridges with the lighter bullets.The Triton is a real pleaser also.
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Post by Callahan on May 15, 2003 15:29:01 GMT -5
If you're carrying Corbon rounds in a .40 Sig, you're pretty much ready for anything!
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Post by DoubleAction on May 15, 2003 16:17:23 GMT -5
Callahan;The Corbon in the Sig 239 is not all that to me except that is has good velosity with a nice deep hollow point bullet.It shoots very good and cycles the little pistol fairly fast.I once shot up a magazine of Corbons in the 239 and didn't realize they were Corbons until I picked up my spent casings.I wish all of the ammunition manufacturers would crimp their cases as Corbon does theirs for the semi autos.
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Post by Callahan on May 15, 2003 17:25:28 GMT -5
Are you talking about the crimp around the center of the Corbon case? I notice Wolf does that with their hunting cartridges, too. Not sure what the purpose is. Looks like expansion might be involved. What is the deal on that?
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Post by DoubleAction on May 15, 2003 17:55:13 GMT -5
Callahan;It is the crimp where the bullet seats in the case,this prevents the bullet from seating further into the case,which can cause higher pressure in the case.Corbon has their own,called the Corbon Crimp.Another bullet crimp is called a Canilure crimp.This is good for people who have a habit of clearing thier pistols every day.With some semi-autos the hollow points don't feed as smooth,and in a short time the bullet will seat further into the case.I never clear my house gun between shoots unless it is absolutely necessary;this is just one reason why.
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