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Post by cheeseball on Feb 23, 2003 13:47:14 GMT -5
Which would be nicer to shoot?
Would the Ti be worth the extra cost?
The gun in question is a Taurus model 627. I like the feel and light wieght of the Ti version. However, I am wary of the addition cost and potentially unfavorable shooting characteristics. Unfortunately I can't try it before I buy.
Any imput on what to expect when shooting the lightwieght gun appreciated.
The gun will be used primarily for indoor range shooting and I plan to get the 6 inch barrel.
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Post by trapper on Feb 23, 2003 20:56:12 GMT -5
cheeseball:
Mosly, I shoot .357 revolvers, but I don't have any experience with lightweight metals. If you are going to the 6 inch barrel for target shooting, then you might want to take a look at the Smith and Wesson 686 (one of the 686's has a compensator(smith-wesson.com). If money is no object, their Performance Center has some great revolvers.
Some folk complain about the recoil associated with Ti, others say it's not a problem. Depends on your level of experience and tolerance. dubbleakshun will have some good insights for you. Hope he responds. Good luck in your selection.
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Post by DoubleAction on Feb 24, 2003 21:01:06 GMT -5
Since it's introduction in 1980,the stainless L Frame Smith & Wesson 686 .357 magnum has had nothing but praise from all aspects of the revolver community.This revolver is a favorite among enthusast who enjoy target shooting with the same gun they intend to use for defensive combat situations and full time duty.The 686 is probably one of the most popular .357 magnums to come along since Colt's legendary Python.Trigger actions are very popular with the 686,as is most enhancements, that will make this very good gun even better.It wasn't long after the sucess of the 686 did Colt take notice and follow suit with the King Cobra.For me,I first saw a 586 in 1982 and fell in love with it immediatedy;knowing nothing of the 586,I took one look at it and knew this was one special S&W.When the 686 came out, it's popularity grew like a wild fire and has been that way since.For my own preferences I remain favorable to the hammer mounted firing pin as opposed to the frame mounted pins.I believe that the popularity of the 686 grew from it's original design,changing something that needed no fix was a mistake in my opinion.I still own my original 586 and a couple of years ago aquired my 686,because it took me awhile to accept stainless,and S&W influenced my acceptance with the .44 magnums.I am totally confident in the 686 as long as the user adheres to the manufacturer's ammunition requirements.The titanium revolvers are for lightweight purposes and serve a purpose but I don't think I'm ready to push more than twenty years of service aside for something fairly new.If I buy a Titanium piece I won't sacrafice a stainless for it.That's my humble opinion.
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Post by Slick on Feb 24, 2003 21:03:40 GMT -5
Stainless!
From what I'm being told, the Titanium models aren't that much fun to shoot with .357 loads...
Looks better too! ;D
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Post by trapper on Feb 24, 2003 22:42:57 GMT -5
cheeseball: One final thought: If you want a revolver for targeting shooting, only, you might consider a .22. It is a lot less expensive unless you do a lot of reloading.
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Post by DoubleAction on Feb 24, 2003 22:59:17 GMT -5
Trapper & Chesseball,I know it's hard to believe this but I just aquired a S&W model 617 K frame,.22 with a four inch barrel that is almost identical to my four inch 686.Both are stainless with the full under lug barrels,same hammer and trigger sizes,grips are compatible,both are six shooters,and both feature the same S&W sights.It took me awhile to put both together but I could have done it sooner if it had been a priority.The 617 has the frame mounted firing pin because it's a rimfire.These two make for very good companions sharing the same leather and grips.
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Post by trapper on Feb 25, 2003 0:13:49 GMT -5
dubbleakshun: Great buy. A 617 is what I had in mind but forgot the model number. I believe it can be purchased with the 8 inch barrel, too. Personally, I prefer a 4 or 6 incher. I have a friend who has an old model 17 with a 6 inch barrel. I like the blued model. It is a great shooter. If I recall, SW made a kit gun in .22 caliber. Maybe they still dol. Not a target gun, but lots of fun to shoot. Take care
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Post by Former MP on Feb 25, 2003 10:40:27 GMT -5
A couple of quick thoughs...
1. Since you are looking at a 6" barrel, it is my guess you will not carry the weapon concealed.
2. I agree with the thought of at least considering a .22 if you are looking at pretty much target shooting and plinking.
These things considered, Taurus makes a decent gun, mostly close in design to more expensive and better manufactured guns. If you are simply MUST have the titanium I would opt for the .357. But since you are mainly looking at target practice, you could use .38 Special caliber rounds to tame the stout recoil associated with the lighter gun. This will ensure you are well within the "safe" ranges and possibly lengthen the service life of your weapon. Firing a weapon with a heavy recoil can be very fun the first couple of rounds, however if you plan on firing couple boxes through your gun you will find it can rapidly become very unpleasant and will generally spend a couple of extra seconds reaquiring your target and good sight picture. Truely the main advantage of the lighter weight guns is when being carried concealed on a routine basis.
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Post by DoubleAction on Feb 25, 2003 12:30:07 GMT -5
Trapper;I was very fortunate to get the 617 in a 4" barrel length with the six round cylinder because it is no longer available.I had this particular pistol one time before because it belonged to my brother who had extensive work done on it from Weigand Combat,including a cased hardened trigger and action job.I always look toward individual sales and used counters because alot of the offerings are no longer available and gun manufacturers are always turning toward methods of reducing costs on the newer production guns.Your right Trapper,the 617 is a direct descendent of the S&W K 22 Masterpiece.
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Post by cheeseball on Feb 25, 2003 21:24:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the input on the lightweight issue. I will be mostly using this gun for target shooting and have considered a .22 but I would prefer something that can double as a home defense/hunting gun. I know some of the tastiest animals can be hunted with a .22 but I also know from experience that a .22 won't stop a person who take any pain (provided the situation doesn't allow a well aimed shot or you get lucky). I would probably get bored with it too.
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