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Post by DoubleAction on Mar 11, 2003 17:20:45 GMT -5
Whimpii; You were doing so well with your message and giving an honest opinion until you arrived to the point of stating that Springfields are the same as the Colts,only cheaper.These two pistols are not forged from the same steel,nor are they fitted in the same factory by the same person,nor do they possess the same frame dimentions.Some Springfields may be less expensive than some Colts,and some Colts are far less expensive than some Springfields, but neither pistol is cheap in anyway.It's okay ;D
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Post by Slick on Mar 12, 2003 1:49:18 GMT -5
Hey DA, Were you referring to Moi on your SW 1911 post? ;D While I have my issues with 1911 prices, and some of the reliability concerns (real or imagined), I am still a huge 1911 fan. I only brought out the negatives in response to Misfit's previously stated concerns. Looking back, I see that did come across a little unfairly on Ol' Slabsides. If you want me to list the positive side of the 1911, I can, but I'll get writer's cramp!!
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Post by DoubleAction on Mar 12, 2003 16:55:57 GMT -5
Not at all Slick;I understand that you have a fondness for the 1911 and if I had any power I would wish for your own collection,a Wilson Combat CQB.The pistol is everything you need in a Combat Semi Auto including speed,accuracy,reliability,smoothness,fit,feel,quality,and the list goes on.I posted the S&W 1911 for the notion of some who does have the misconception that the 1911 is only a symbol of staus among handgun enthusiast.I look at parts catalogs for these pistols more than I do the guns themselves.The only real cure for the non believers is a hands on experience of what a custom 1911 is about;it's about shooting,it just a coincidence that it looks so darn good. ;D
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Post by Slick on Mar 12, 2003 20:55:14 GMT -5
Oh Man, I wouldn't know what to do with a Wilson CQB. I'm afraid to pick one up because they'll never be able to pry it out of my fingers!! If this SW turns out to be as nice as I'm hoping, I'm probably going to have to buy one. Any word on parts interchangeability (is that really a word??) ?
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Post by whimpii on Mar 13, 2003 4:12:27 GMT -5
DA Are you saying that the colt and springfield are very different? What I was refering to was the mil-spec(springfield) and the gov. issue(colt). I am not too sure how different they could be since it basically the old standard issue for the military, and I was under the impression that all of the manufactuers that produced these guns had to produce them the same way. Oh just currious what colt 1911 is cheaper than a springfield. the difference in the two guns above is over $400. Also sorry if anyone that implied that the guns were identical, and off couse they are not fitted by the same person or the same place. If you had to choose which you choose, colt or springfield? Lastly, sorry im I am misinformed, but I have been told by a few gunsmiths that the colts 1911 and the springfield 1911 are basically the same gun, so please excuse my ignorance.
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Post by DoubleAction on Mar 13, 2003 18:03:12 GMT -5
Whimpii;The Springfields and Colts are 1911s, but installing some parts on the Springfields that are made for the Colt could be difficult.What your gunsmith is probably referring to is the 1911 design,which most 1911s share.The Springfields vary in retail prices as does the Colts,the Springfield TRP Pro can cost in excess of $2,000. dollars and a Trophy Match up to $1,119.dollars.At one time many manufactured the 1911 military issue,but I am not referrring to the military issue because I pay for my own pistols now and have certain liberties to pick and choose.When installing parts for a 1911, most are manufactured to the Colt and it's pin hole dimensions.This can cause alot of extra work for someone installing sears.hammers,or grip safeties with the idea that both pistols are identical.To really tell the truth,I use the Wilson Combat as the yard stick to measure the performance and handling of my own 1911s.I wouldn't mind having a Springfield TRP Pro Model but ,it's a little pricey,I'll just have to be happy with my Colt Gold Cup Trophy,it only cost me $859. and the BoMar rear sight is a done deal.Whimpii,the information that you received is not wrong in the sense of generally speaking and there is no ignorance of your knowledge.I refit most of my 1911s before I even shoot them because I'm not happy with the components most have from the factory.The Colt Trophy is an exception to this rule,I think a person can have this 1911 without bothering with much of anything else at a price that is competitive with Springfields.What do you think?
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