rmt
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Post by rmt on May 11, 2003 20:15:33 GMT -5
a friend of mine told me that a friend of theirs had given them some "free" rounds.
The giver is a law enforcement officer. The friend discovered that one of the boxes of .40 cal winchester sxt's stated LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY on the box.
are there specific laws federal or state that prohibit certain types of ammo being possessed by civilians?
I remember this issue coming up 15 years ago w/ "Talon" rounds but do not recall whether some AMMO was for law enforcement only
I have reviewed my state's laws and cannot find anything.
If someone could shed some light on this issue it would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by DoubleAction on May 11, 2003 20:26:07 GMT -5
In my state the shooter assumes all the responsbility for the damage caused by the ammunition fired from the firearm that he is shooting,whether it's justified or reckless.I have some Winchester SXT,and to my knowledge it is not for law enforcement only,nor is the sale restricted as such.That is in the state where I reside;I'm not familiar with any ammunition restrictions elsewhere.
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Post by Magnum on May 11, 2003 21:33:14 GMT -5
There have been bans on the manufacture and commercial sale of certain ammunition. Black Talon being one of them. I know that Winchester is still making them though. The SXT in certain calibers is essentially identical to Black Talons, not sure about all of them, but I'm pretty sure the .357 is one of them. Perhaps that box is one of the earlier ones, made right after the ban when Winchester was still trying to cover their ass. It is possible that it is a LE only load, but I've never seen that from Winchester. Remington and Federal do that, but I always thought Winchester only sold their regular stuff for LE. Somebody else might know more.
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Post by DoubleAction on May 11, 2003 21:41:40 GMT -5
Winchester will have all of the information regarding the SXT line of handgun ammunition and the Law Enforcement areas. www.winchester.com |
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rmt
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Post by rmt on May 11, 2003 22:41:44 GMT -5
it is a Ranger SXT Controlled Expansion
RA40SXT
thanks for the links
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Post by newbieguy on May 12, 2003 5:16:33 GMT -5
From everything that I have managed to find, "law enforcement only" ammo is only higher pressure than regular. It may damage older less maintained weapons. The ammo companies choose to sell it to law enforcement only (there is no law that splits civilian and police ammo). There are sites on the internet wherer you can buy LE only ammo, but because of the hype there is a high price ($30+ for a box of 20)
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Post by blharris77 on May 12, 2003 10:34:04 GMT -5
I did some research on this and in TN there is no law that says you can't own ammo where the box is marked "Law Enforcement Only". It is just a stipulation that the manufacturers have placed on ammo distributors that they not sell to civilians. Now whether or not that is for price gouging or lawsuit reasons I don't know. As mentioned in a post above you can find LEO ammo on the web. I got a box of 50 Winchester Ranger SXT .40 (RA40T) for $26.00 at www.gunbroker.com. |
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Post by 5Delta3 on May 12, 2003 11:07:46 GMT -5
From the Gun Control Act of 1968 Title 18 USC(B)
The sale, transfer and importation of "armor piercing ammo is considered an unlawful act. (See definition below)
Here are a couple of problems...
1. State law may prohibit the type of ammo
2. The rounds may have belonged to a law enforcement agency and purchased with tax money (if so a case could be made that the officer STOLE the rounds and the receiver is guilty of RECEIVING stolen property.
3. Law enforcement agencies generally purchase ammo by the lot and they can sometimes be tracked via markings on the casing.
Over all this sounds like bad news! I would return the ammo to the officer or use it up immediately at the range. It is certainly not worth the hassle!
The term "armor piercing ammunition" means -
(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which
is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances)
from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze,
beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and
intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25
percent of the total weight of the projectile.
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Post by 5Delta3 on May 12, 2003 11:09:54 GMT -5
the reason I mention armor piercing is that it is the only mention of prohibited ammo I could find in the US Code
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