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Post by Mitch HanK Sauer on Jun 14, 2003 19:47:29 GMT -5
I've read many posts here and other forums to STAY AWAY form Wolf ammo. On top of that, NONE of the ranges here locally will allow you to shoot it on their range since the steel casings are useless to them.
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Post by DoubleAction on Jun 14, 2003 21:41:01 GMT -5
What really gets to me at the range, when I'm shoveling up all the 3 1/2 cent .45 acp brass, is these people who uses the worthless wolf cases and it leaves me no profit margin on the brass end of my ammunition round up.These guys will tell you the same sad tale: groups.msn.com/SingleActionSocietyof1911AutoPistols
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Post by tddude on Jun 15, 2003 6:33:34 GMT -5
Get you a big magnet and use it to stirr up the brass. All those bad metal boys will cling to it like it was their mama and you can clear out a big box in about 5 minutes.
A great place to find a big maginet is to take apart an old stereo speaker.
I went to one indoor range in Houston and they had so many rules that I broke about three just walking in the door. First, I didn't put my liscensed pistol in a plastic baggie so they could inspect it. I then had to show them all my ammunition. I couldn't use any thing that had any metal in it. My casings were brass but since I had surplus army stuff, the bullets had metal and they were verboten. I even had my daughter with me and the .22 ammo we purchased at WalMart was hollow point so they wouldn't let us use that.
I can understand wanting to preserve their basckstop but they really lost me as a customer when I had to put my pistol in a freezer bag so they could look at it. I'm not really sure what they were looking for but it was offensive. Needless to say, we shook the dust off our boots as we left and haven't been back.
We then drove up to Humble, Tx and found an indoor range. I think that their motto is "If you can fog a mirror, great! Come on in and shoot". We did. They do have the normal range rules and it was a great place. I spent probably $20.00 on range fees and targets and my 9 year old and I had a blast and that silly old "other range" will never see my $20.00 in business for the next 40or so years of my life.
Make sure the rules are for the customers safety and not so much for the store's convenience.
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Post by Misfit on Jun 15, 2003 10:15:45 GMT -5
tdude, Sorry to hear about the bad experience you had. I mostly shoot at outdoor ranges - it's much more fun to splash dirt, blow up wood, knock down bowling pins and break clays than punching holes in paper in a poorly-ventilated, sound-amplifying indoor range. However, I've never been to any range where I had to put my gun in a plastic bag! Wat's that regulation for? I've been to about 3 different ranges, each with their pros and cons, but most of the time, the people behind the counter were friendly and helpful. At the first one, they wanted to inspect you gun, but didn't want to look at ammo. To rent a gun there you had to perform a safety demonstration to show that you wouldn't shoot yourself or others accidentally. The second one was the most lax - they didn't even bother to look in my bag at all, and renting a gun of any kind only required a driver's license. They also let you shoot long guns as long as they're in pistol-type caliber - even .30Carbine was okay! Only bad thing was this one was a little run down and the air was extremely bad - I think my IQ went down a few points just inhaling all that lead dust! The third one was the most anal, but the folks were still pretty friendly. They wouldn't let me rent a gun because I was by myself (couldn't really understand that one) and they said that I could only fire once every five seconds, and could only load 5 rounds in my magazines! WTF? Anyway, it was a nice range, very clean and well run, so I didn't complain.
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Post by DoubleAction on Jun 15, 2003 13:00:08 GMT -5
The magnet idea is a good one dude,but I have to separate it anyway,I get a big pile of different calibers.I have some large speaker magnets that I still might sift through the mix and safe my hands the trouble of picking.This wasn't a problem until recently at the range,this russian crap is all over the place.Thanks.
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Post by DoubleAction on Jun 15, 2003 13:25:40 GMT -5
Indoor Ranges can be convenient when located close to the home base,and they make for a good mix of local gun toters to gather very close.Everything from LE, the neighbor down the street,local street thugs,business owners,politicians,school teachers,and the general public at large will be in attendance.It is a good place to practice skill in a very close environment with many on lookers over your shoulders,alot of awareness going on while your shooting.It's a good place to test peoples reactions to the more powerful cartridges like the .357 magnum and the .357 sig ;D.I use the indoor range for the business end of testing a pistol's performance and practice in holding up my own end of the bargain. ;D
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